At last Arsenal have taken a Chelsea player that isn’t a ‘reject’ but in their prime…

Havertz is NOT a Chelsea reject by Dan Smith

Some Chelsea fans might view us signing Kai Havertz as the latest time we have taken one of their rejects.

Some Gooners might even agree?

Yet, this isn’t a free agent we have purchased, or someone for a reduced fee because they have a year left on their contract.

This sum is 65 million pounds! That transaction doesn’t happen unless Mikel Arteta sees potential in the German and has plans on how to utilise him in our team.

It represents a turning point in negotiations between the two rivals.

Instead of buying individuals past their peak, now we are poaching a 24-year-old with his best years in front of him, someone who can still learn to be better.

This time it’s Chelsea in need of reducing their wage bill, mindful of FFP.

It hasn’t been like this in decades which naturally coincides with our return to the Champions League and Chelsea’s failure to qualify for Europe.

It wasn’t always this way …….

For younger readers, here is the history of Chelsea.

56 years ago Roman Abramovich was born, and 36 years later he randomly pointed onto a map of the UK and his finger happened to land on a rich part of London who’s football team had been a good cup side in the nineties, but in League terms had underachieved so much that they were in danger of going out of business.

Overnight suddenly, Chelsea became one of the richest teams in the world, able to offer wages that most couldn’t compete with.

This coincided with us having to pay off loans to build a new stadium with our action plan being a self-sustained model. That decision was built on the noble yet naive notion that UEFA were serious about their Financial Fair Play rules.

Never before had there been such a divide between the two clubs in terms of wealth. Up to Chelsea’s takeover, the Gunners had been the dominant force in the Capital both in terms of trophies and the Derby fixture itself.

Since leaving, Mr Wenger has gone into detail about the true nature of how we had to pay back bank loans, having already budgeted incoming revenue.

In what perhaps only some understand was a great job now, our manager had to often sell his best player to raise funds, replace him at a fraction of the cost, and yet still find a way to gain a top 4 finish to garner crucial income from Champions League nights.

No wonder he said, ‘top 4 was a trophy’. Looking back, he was simply preparing fans for the reality of our situation. The days of being consistent title challengers were a thing of the past.

Chelsea knew it too. Perhaps representing how far we had fallen; the Blues no longer saw us as a threat so were happy to do business with us.

Not to give us their best players of course, but to throw us a bone occasionally, offering someone in their squad not valuable.

In 2011 they loaned us Benayoun. That never would have happened back at Highbury where Mr Wenger had a policy of only handing out 1 year rolling on contracts once you got to the age of 30.

Jose Mourinho almost gave us a compliment when he resisted Petr Cech joining us, although that might have been an indictment of his disdain for Mr Wenger.

One of the reasons the Portuguese left the Bridge the second time was his employers overriding his decision to block the transfer, rightfully feeling out of respect the keeper deserved a move that appeased his family.

That’s what the Emirates represented, a place where you could remain well paid while living in London.

David Luiz and Willian both joined simply because Chelsea (for a reason) would only extend their contracts by a year, while out of desperation we would offer longer term deals.

Both Cech and Willian have had enough class to not publicly say this, but both struggled in the red corner while so obviously the colour blue.

The leadership in the dressing room and standards and expectations would have been different to what they faced daily in the West End.

In the Prem era, Arsenal have mostly avoided selling assets directly to Chelsea.

At our height of success, it was never in the conversation that any of our stars would crave that move. While under Ken Bates, Chelsea were good enough to not have to ask for any of our fringe players.

The exception to the rule would be Giroud, but we only authorised that to facilitate the capture of Aubameyang. The striker of course has worn both shirts, but that case is more based on his choices.

Ashley Cole swapped with Gallas, Cole only one of two players to lift the Prem title with both.

Petit, Fabregas and Anelka played for both, but went through other destinations first.

All three admitted that their first choice would have been a return to North London.

Anelka rang to ask his mentor to make it happen, while we had a buy back clause in Fabregas’s Barcelona contract.

Mr Wenger either felt financially restricted or personally offended or both.

He was always hurt how Anelka and his brothers conducted themselves in front of him and David Dein to force a move to Madrid. While he felt he didn’t need Fabregas, relying on Jack Wilshere and Aaron Ramsey to stay fit.

Both proved him wrong at the Bridge, excelling after costs that we could have afforded.

So, as you can see, the Kai Havertz transfer represents a changing of the guard, or the world going back to how it should be, depending on your point of view.

Chelsea players not in their prime, now look at the Gunners as an alternative, where they will have a better chance of winning silverware and an opportunity to compete in Europe’s most prestigious competition.

For too long it was the opposite.

Chelsea unfortunately will rise again; they are too rich not too.

You throw enough money at a project eventually it will stick.

For the moment though, I’m going to enjoy every moment of this.

It’s like the Wizard of Oz when Dorothy walks through the door and darkness turns to light and she realises this is how it should be.

Arsenal taking away Chelsea players before their prime.

Just how it was meant to be.

Dan

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38 Comments

        1. Gai, can we really say Havertz is in his “Prime” a player would be judged by his seasons performance. Age wise Yes but performance No .No gunner can confidently say we got Havertz deal right until start of next season. In my opinion he is more of a gamble compared to DRice.

          1. Based on his performance for Germany, I don’t think he will become as clumsy and inconsistent as Pepe

            If he fails as a CF, we could assign him in Xhaka’s position or make him compete with Odegaard/ Saka

          2. 67mil in one this. But more worrisome is his wage structure believed in the region of 385k weekly. Yes Arsenal might easily afford that wage but more concerning is this may disrupt our squad harmony. When the player better than him earn less than half what it earns then there ia definitely going to be disatisfaction in the squad which will hamper team performance. And I could see in 2 yrs time either these unsatisfied player will get devaluated , demoralized or Arsenal will need to better the salary of Havertz to renew their contract, which will skyrocket our wage structure. There is again danger of letting our important player leave for free to keep wage limit. So I don’t know if this transfer will really suit Arsenal in long run.

            1. Vz Where on Earth did you get that misinformaton about him being paid £385k pw?

              Total rubbish!

              1. The German newspaper Bild report that the German arrives as the club’s top earner at €20m (£17m/$22m) a year or €385,000 (£331,000/$420,500) a week with further bonuses available for helping the club to silverware. As reported by Goal.com

                1. Not just bild VZ
                  Every sports outlet have said the same thing 330 grand a week ,he was on 310k a week at Chelsea ,if fans thought he was going to give up 2 years more of that for less ,then more fool them .
                  What was it “no more silly wages or transfer fees after covid “😂

                2. Vz And you are naive enough to believe we would pay him THAT much? Its ludicrous nonsense!

                  You would seemingly prefer to believe a fantasist German newspaper, rather than use your own head to see that figure is plainly LUDICROUS!

                  1. Only one naive fan on this thread ,and unfortunately it’s you again jonny boy
                    A quick google search will show you how much he is on ,atleast 20 reports I’ve read all say the same thing 330k

                    1. I see you are as out of touch with TRUE reality as ever DK. You dont even recognise that once any false rumour breaks on social media, all the other “sheep” pounce on it an repeat it endlessly, not bothering to check its authenticity.

                      You seem not know how media life works, so very often.
                      With our established stars being offered far less, do you seriously imagine we would pay this unproven new buy such a sum!!

                      I use my brain and see the falseness.

                      I do this all the time and rarely ,if ever, take media/ newspaper reports at face value, UNTIL I have thought it through to see if it makes sense.

                      And THAT claimed wage figure DOES NOT!

              2. I have seen reports it is £330,000 a week, so there may be some truth in the fact he will be Arsenal’s highest-paid player. If this is true, it is sheer lunacy, that we would pay that much, it will cause problems when players have their contracts renewed. I hope this doesn’t become another Ozil saga

    1. Yeah but we didn’t sign as in buy outright
      Chelsea were happy to give him to us so they got Cole

    2. I agree with you – gallas was quality when he joined. He’d actually been held back at Chelsea, often forced to play LB because of Terry and carvalho; to my recollection, he played the role almost like a sweeper, covering the space behind terry, who was relatively easily exposed earlier in his career. He was a France international, though, and a top defender who could have played for any club.
      Gallas’ downfall at arsenal wasn’t at all to do with his ability of his performances on the pitch, it was his attitude and poor leadership – he was great up until the birmingham game.

      1. I remember about his frustation when we got a bad result. He was a talented CB, but Arsenal were in a downward spiral

      2. The point is Chelsea got the better of the deal
        Who did better , Gallas at Arsenal or Cole at Chelsea ?

        1. Of course Chelsea got the better deal – I went on a tangent, as I don’t think people realise how good gallas actually was. Cole was one of the very best LBs in the world for a long time, and Chelsea got his best years imo.

        2. Considering we were basically forced into selling them Cole, bringing in gallas was about as good as we could have done to be fair (he really wasn’t that much worse than cole in his primary CB position imo). If I’m not misremembering, we made him captain (which was probably a condition of him joining) – that was the real mistake we made because it went to his head and he couldn’t handle it imo

  1. Whilst I agree with the overall point, this is the biggest risk of all Chelsea to Arsenal signings given his form and the financial outlay.

    I do think Havertz is a quality player, given what he showed at Leverkusen, but can Arteta unlock that potential? At the price we paid, there’s pressure to make this work.

    However, I do think this will be our most intriguing signing of the summer because we’re all eger to see how Arteta utilises him.

  2. Not a reject, just another expensive flop. 65m fee plus wages of 250,000 pounds weekly. Szoboszlai costs Liverpool 60m pounds and wages less than 150,000 pounds weekly. Not convinced about the signing of Kai Havertz, but, hope this works out well for all parties involved.

  3. I can understand why the Germans was desperate to leave the Bridge, but on the surface atleast, it’s less obvious why he turned down his boyhood club Real Madrid and why Arsenal fight tooth and nail to get his signature.

    After three years at Stanford bridge, it’s hard to evaluate Havertz legacy at Chelsea. He has departed leaving the club with a record of 32 goalsand 12 assist from 139 appearances. There are some obvious highlights, notably his game winning goals in the 2021 champion league final and the 2022 club world cup final.
    Despite those big moments he has fail to kick on and sometimes goes missing, many thought myself included he’s has not the heights at Bridge after really impressing at at Bayer Leverkusen.

    At the reported fee of £65 mill, it’s also not a cheap signing for the gunners, Ignoring that record breaking deal of Declan Rice, for a moment landing Havertz at that price would be Arsenal third most expensive signing in the gunners history, having broken it twice in a given transfer window.

    A part from that, perhaps the most muddling part of the transfer is the confusion over Havertz best position.
    But we are probably asking the wrong question, where will he plays for Arsenal?
    Its a logical thought , but the very fact there isn’t an obvious answer to that question is exactly the point.

    Havertz is not an Chelsea old reject like pass player we have sign, An acquisition of a player like Havertz immediately raises the standards of Arsenal squad, If the Citizens has shown anything it’s how to build a powerhouse unit you don’t just need incredible starting eleven, you need squad players who are just as good in the starting eleven.

    The massive question is where will he play.
    Havertz has been ask to play as an out and out striker at the bridge, somthing he’s never been, and task with a lot of offensive responsibilities.
    In his own words, Havertz says he’s more or less a midfield player but I like to go into the box, thing the gaffer believes him and that’s right up Arteta street.

    Wherever the gaffer chooses to use the German, his comfort on the ball and the ability to link players around him, I suspect the gaffer is about to unleash to devastating effects.

  4. Havertz is indeed talented and a complete professional. It remains to be seen how best Arteta utilises his talent in the right manner and hopefully Havertz and Arsenal win many trophies. Chelsea have always tried to go up using unfair means and principles whilst Arsenal have kept it simple and fair and have yet succeeded more than them in many ways.

  5. Good article Dan and one I concur with.
    It is said that chelsea were one hour away from administration before Abramovitch stepped in and, in one swoop, cleared all their debts.
    It was also rumoured that he was interested in buying the spuds before chelsea , but Levi said no.
    I’m not one of those who says we have bought chelsea rejects, as I believe Cech, Gallas, Hudson, Luiz all did what they were asked of – my biggest regret was letting Cole leave for a measly argument over money.

    As for Havertz, last season saw EVERY chelsea player as “expensive flops” as they returned to the Ken Bates type era.
    Without Abramovitch, that’s where they would have stayed.
    I’m sure MA will be able to unlock Havertz talents, just as he did with Xhaka.

    It does look as if he’s being lined up for the next fall guy with some of our fans before he’s even kicked a ball! /

  6. Please give him the opportunity to prove himself.

    Maybe he could thrive here with more play time, playing in a different position with a different team

    Let’s see what happens and hope for the best

    1. I’m on board with that, but because of the transfer fee and rumoured wages, there will be the half-empty so-called fans getting ready with their criticism.

  7. Am one of the few people trusting Edu & Arterta’s scouting & managment projects so, my fellow Gunners let’s be patient and calm because in Arterta`s era i have never seen him spent over £50 million on just one player

    In my opinion Kai Havertz, Jurrien Timber & Declan Rice will all be superb signings for the club so, Chelsea->Arsenal transfer business may end on Kai Havertz because Chelsea gona regret in near the future for Havertz potential @Arsenal!
    wait and see

  8. He must be doing something right if he’s getting his minutes for Germany. Germany always has a wealth of options.

    He’s just not a striker and that can damage your confidence if you’re not getting into the right places and you’re going a long time without a goal input, he shouldn’t have had that put onto his young shoulders he’s an attacking midfielder meant to replace Hazard not Lukaku

    1. Germany who went out of the last two world cups at the group stage ?
      Losing to South Korea , Mexico and Japan ?

  9. I still remember when the season Roman took over, Chelsea offered 100M for both Thierry Henry and Patrick Vieira, which Arsene Wenger rejected flat. The financial coping of Chelsea not only destroyed the English football economy, but also created one of the most insufferable football fans in the land. And they took an extra step towards abomination by hiring the ever toxic Jose Mourinho. Where is he now? Perhaps he loves Roman money so much that he mistakenly managing Roma. Where are the Chelsea noise now? Not so tough without the sugar daddy. As always. Arsenal did the right way, suffered as what real men do and now reaping the benefit for all to see. We owe Arsene Wenger everything.

  10. Yes, Iget that many onJA love and enjoy raking up lomg past business- a past that from corroptly owned Chelseas viewpoint, thei fasn sloverubbing our nose in it. But to me , its ancient history and about as relevant to today as the ice age is! Gone, buried and I moved on years ago.

    All I see ahead is a glorious near future and a club well set to be successful and win trophies.

    Recriminations we can all do; that is what many humans do.
    . But forward looking optimists with realism alongside have little time or inclination left to rake over old sores.

    That is my position and also my life philosophy.

    I do of course, occasionally , being human , let myself down and indulge in such nonsense.

    OCCASIONALLY only though! Thank goodness for me personally!

  11. I would t say a reject Dan ,but a 65 million player ,not a even close mate ,I’ve watched him and cChelsea over his stint there and if yourself and fans are hoping for some kind of top notch forward that is going to bang in goals and use his height (awful for a 6-2 ft player )you’re going to be disappointed.
    I understand why Arteta as bought him as he does the hard yardage and his defensive wok is second to none ,but apart form that he’s not a player who is going to excite anyone ,that’s why I find the transfer a weird one as he plays naturally on the inside left where we are completely stacked ,Martinelli,Trossard ESR ,unless OFC Arteta as different plans for him ,time will tell , but for me that’s a complete waste of 65 million

  12. That Havertz is not a Chelsea ‘reject’ is a very reasonable point. One wonders how many believe he is a reject though.
    The main arguments against him are that he has probably not lived up to expectations despite considerable talent.
    Most of us would be happy if he turns into a great player for us. If and when that happens we can begin to celebrate.
    The Abramovich era at Chelsea is done with and there is little point in raking over what happened between the clubs during that period as it has little relevance to this transfer.

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