Arsenal Winger Marquinhos is currently with the Brazilian U23 team, but his club future remains uncertain.
He spent the first half of the season on loan at Nantes but failed to get enough game time at the French club.
This prompted Arsenal to recall him this month, and he is expected to join another club on loan as long as they can guarantee that he will play often for them.
Marquinhos is still just 20, so he needs game time, but he might remain at Arsenal until the end of the season.
Speaking while in camp with the Brazil youth team, he was asked about his future and said to Globo Esporte:
“I’m very focused on having a great Pre-Olympic, to return to Arsenal confident, to continue the work there, and God willing, to be at the next Olympics.”
Just Arsenal Opinion
Marquinhos deserves game time and knows he can do a good job if given chances to play.
We need to find a new home for him for the second half of the season, even if it means playing in the Championship in England.
However, he must be guaranteed playing time, otherwise, it would be better for him to stay at the Emirates and train with our stars, who are of better quality.
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Can our manager not keep this boy and develop him gradually? I watched him and he’s really got talent. Must other managers develop players for Arteta? Under Ten Hag, Kobbie Mainoo has come through and is a key reason why Casemiro is on his way out of United. Where are our academy players?
Tbh, most of these modern managers (including the so-called Ten Hag) around are very poor with player developments. People tend to now think management or coaching is only about naming squads, making team selections and subs.
These managers, aided by the media and fans, every now and then come up with “players not good enough”, the terrible term of “deadwood” and it’s always buy, buy, buy.
There are not many managers at top clubs who develop players anymore.
On the other hand, bringing players through the academy has been a big problem at Arsenal in recent years, and this is absolutely different from the managers knowing about player management.
I grew up knowing how Arsenal consistently kept producing quality talents through the ranks, on the Wenger era. We were always spoilt with midfielders and creativity, and now??
Your last paragraph, d02, sums up what I believe most Arsenal fans believe.
We have ESR unable to get playing time, Patino being loaned out and we now have the same situation with Marquinhos in the same position.
I’m wondering if Per Mertesaker is not helping matters, by not keeping these loan players at home and actually working with them?
MA is at the sharp end of things and, apart from our dead rubber CL game, can understand his reluctance to introduce younger players, when we are still in with a chance for both PL and CL titles.
ESR is a different case of course, as we know what he is capable of doing and I put this situation down to MA entirely.
Marquinhos is built is physically strong and just needs to be properly supervised at The Arsenal.
We need Freddie Lumberg back, he did an amazing job with young talent. His playing style and his coaching are anti thesis of what Mikel Arteta did as player and now as a coach/Manager. Bring back our Freddie. Bring back Dennis Bergkamp maybe as Director of Football.
Away with rubbish football. away with rubbish players, away with rubbish tactics and finally away with wannabes destroying our club – financially and sporting.
For a player to get developed, he must be playing and u can only have the chance of playing in a team that is lesser to ur parent club. He won’t get the chance now at Arsenal. There are many players ahead of him waiting to have a chance.
I would say that developing players is the job of the academy coaches. It is up to them to produce the goods as part of the bigger picture that Arteta leads.
Not every player matures at the same age and I suggest that there is not always space available in a particular position as sufficient may already be in the main squad. The Sakas of this world are a rare breed. Supremely talented, and not generally prone to injury and they rise to the top as did Rooney at a tender age.
Others are often sent out on loan or sold off to the lower leagues as their talent isn’t of sufficient quality. Doing well in a Championship or League 1 team just might then get them an opportunity later on but there are far more whose dreams of playing top flight football are dashed.
Saw this kid against Chelsea in downtown Orlando and he looks strong and technical, why not loan him to Brighton.
Why would we do that Gunsmoke?
Why not perfect his skills at OUR club?.
Isn’t that what investing time and money is about?
Ken
I thought Arteta’s ability to work with youth (at City) was a positive selling point during his interview with Arsenal.
However, after 4 1/2 years not a single Academy player has cracked the first team, nor been developed under Arteta or his staff.
I think players like Walters and Patino can easily replace Elneny and Cedric on the roster. Neither play for The Arsenal, and it’s a perfect opportunity for Arteta and his staff to develop Walters and Patino under his style of play.
Arteta’s man management continues to be a real concern, and has not improved in my opinion.
Perhaps replace some of his assistants with coaches who can develop youth further? Perhaps limit Arteta to coaching 1st team duties? I think he has too many responsibilities and it is effecting our results.
Durand, I hope your well over in the states my friend.
I guess that was where I was coming from, regarding MA and his workload.
We saw how it affected AW over his latter years, as did the club.
They stated that nobody else would have the responsibilities (power?) that he had, yet two seasons later gave MA the same role.
A role that the experienced AW found too much, so how can one expect MA to perform any better?
I agree with your Patino /Walters scenario, but I have this feeling that Elneny will stay at the club in a backroom staff role.
I would suggest Cedric and Viera, but your main point about our academy players is factual and spot on.
My biggest gripe is ESR and how he’s not being given the chance to show he’s back – to put him on for the last three minutes, seemed like he was getting his nose rubbed even further into the sand!!
The only thing I could disagree with you on though, is his man management style. Like it or not, he has brought harmony to the club, both on and off the pitch, certainly at The Emirates anyway.
I love his enthusiasm and he lives every second of every game and, if you watch carefully, at nearly every break in play (longer than a minute) the players, especially Odegaard, are always listening to him on the sidelines.
I believe his determination not to back down regarding mistakes made by officials isn’t helping the club, but I can’t help but admire him for saying it as he sees it and backing his players to the hilt!!
Ken1945, Am actually happy you ask the question, though I think you already knows the answer, Durand may have addressed some part of it
Now I would like to ask you a question, do you think had Smith Rowe and Marquinhos both been at Aston Villa or Brighton for the last twelve months their value or form would have been the same?
This area of developing young talents is just not our gaffer strength..
Saliba is the clearest case yet?
Do you think Brighton would have played Mustafi ahead of Saliba?
Gunsmoke, thanks for the questions.
Here’s my opinion.
1. Their values? ESR is wanted by UE, if reports are correct, so he would have played more games and it’s my belief he would have continued to progress in his career under UE – let’s not forget he was being tipped to play for England.
Not so sure about Marquinhos, as he hasn’t been given ANY opportunity and I don’t know if he would have slotted in at either of the clubs you mention.
2. Never in a million years and I think MA was very lucky that Saliba was mature enough to recognise what playing for The Arsenal really means.
I agree that it’s not MA’s strength and that’s why I agree with Durand regarding taking some of the pressure away from him, but also questioning why Mertesaker isn’t providing players who are ready to step in.
Hope that answers your questions and I’m going to take this opportunity to list the websites where, for instance, one can find out that, reportedly, ESR is our second lowest paid player on just £40,000 a week!!
capology. come – sport bible.com – 888sport.com – sports brief.com – statistics. com – the athletic.com – radiotimes.co – Augustman. com – salary’s port. com… there are others, but I guess that’s enough to be getting references and facts from.
Strangely enough, I couldn’t find one single site that reported on AW ‘s CL squad being one of the highest paid in Europe, but I’m guessing that will now follow, what do you think Gunsmoke?
Hi Ken
I really like Marquinhos. He has a great left foot and is direct with his running.
Hope he stays at AFC for the remainder of the season. A good backup for Saka or for cameo roles for about 20 – 25 minutes giving rest to Saka.
OT: Mika Biereth’s loan is also cut short at Motherwell who are gutted with this decision as he has been scoring and assisting for them. The report states they are planning to send him to Sheffield Wednesday for the remainder of the season. Again he is a short term solution for striker and would not cost a penny and he is an old fashioned No. 9.
IG, agree on Marquinhos, let’s actually work with and on our players, not sending them out to other clubs
Biereth has been getting great reviews up in Scotland, why not work on him as well?
You people are here blaming Arteta for Not developing him, why didn’t he get games at Nantes? But you all want Arteta to keep him and play him. By the time the team start to fumble, you will not spare neither the lad or Arteta. A coaches Job especially at Arsenal is. Not just to develop but to win and be competitive. Brighton can afford to do that because there’s no such expectations on the shoulder of the coache or players. This is why most of the players that left them to bigger clubs where there is pressure to win become just above average.