Could both Arsenal AND Man United overtake Man City this season?

Arsenal will begin their 2023–24 Premier League campaign against Nottingham Forest in less than 14 days. There is a lot of optimism regarding Arsenal’s potential next season. The hope is that the Gunners can finally pull off a successful title assault after failing to sustain the Premier League charge last season.

Wayne Rooney and Mikael Silvestre, both former Manchester United players, anticipate that Arteta and the team will be successful in their bid for the PL title this time around.

Rooney stated, “Arsenal has been steadily building a strong team, and they have the potential to challenge the top clubs. With their tactical gameplay and the addition of some exceptional talents, I foresee them reaching the final match next season.”

On the other hand, Silvestre, who also played for Arsenal at one point in his career, told Betting Expert that Arsenal are winning the league, and surprisingly, according to him, Manchester City will drop in form and finish third behind Manchester United, who will finish second.

“I think Arsenal will win the title.

“In second, I’m going for Manchester United. Man City will be third, and I think Liverpool could get fourth.

“The fact that Arsenal challenged for the Premier League last season was a surprise to everyone and even to themselves.

“Now that they’ve done that with consistency, being in the top spot for so long, they clearly are title challengers this season. They’ll go for it, and they should.”

It is undeniable that Mikel Arteta has benefited from this transfer window; he has signed, and is still signing, top stars like Declan Rice, Jurrien Timber, and Kai Havertz, who are improving Arsenal from where they were.

The Gunners should be very determined to compete for the league and be brutal to anyone who stands in their way of success.

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19 Comments

  1. Yes Arsenal could over take Man city in the upcoming campaign if we get our tactics right by going back to basics.

    The loss of Ilkay Gundogan Mahrez and the aging KDB will affect the Citizens winning those close encounters, that they have come accustomed to stealing.

    1. I’m a little confused by your comment regarding De Bruyne.
      He was absolute top quality last season but between the period of May to August he is suddenly “aging” as you say.
      De Bruyne will be exactly the same De Bruyne as last season and whilst the loss of Gundogun and Mahrez may seem to us a major blow to Man City’s chances it doesn’t seem to bother Guardiola the slightest.
      May be that will be the case.
      May be FFP is playing a role in Man City’s transfer dealings who knows.
      I suspect that Guardiola plans to change his tactics as there seems to be little movement in the way of replacing these players.
      Arsenal will be there or thereabouts but I do feel that a top quality striker is a higher priority than Raya. Neither Eddie or Balogun are good enough..

      1. Me2
        The Belgian is a generational talent alright, but will the 32 yrs old be able to play 27 games this season or off the bench?
        Ilkay Gundogan, Riyad Mahrez and the superior talented and agile KDB has been massive for the Citizens over the years.

        Did you happen to take note of Mane missing from Liverpool and what subsequently happened. Why is the Citizens any different?
        In my opinion the Citizens loss is bigger in terms of sheer numbers and the quality personnel missing.

        1. It depends upon his natural level of fitness. Ronaldo and Messi were hugely fit and managed to play beyond 35 years at a level higher than many of the so-called top players today.
          Man City’s loss is a big loss for sure and Liverpool’s struggles may become apparent as the spine of their team has either left (Fabinho, Firminho, Henderson) or passed their peak (Salah and Van Dijk)
          I suspect Liverpool may struggle more this season than City because their central midfield has been replaced..
          Time will tell…

          1. He played 42 games last season in the prem and CL scoring 9 goals and having 16 assists ,I don’t understand where this talk has come from,I’ve seen some fans suggesting he’s lost his pace 🤔.
            IMO he’s been the best player in the prem for the last 5 years and one of the very best I’ve witnessed on these shores ,I see nothing to suggest he’s slowing down .
            He will be around for a few more years yet ,and there is plenty of gas left in his tank

  2. I don’t think so, because Arsenal and Man United have to focus on UCL. Jesus is also injured and Hojlund just joined Man United

    Man City looked weaker, but they have replaced Gundogan with Kovacic, anticipated Mahrez’s departure with Foden/ Palmer and are signing Gvardiol/ Doku

  3. I’m far from confident of either prediction. We look stronger on paper, but the balance and mentality have to be right, and I’m waiting to see a few competitive games before thinking about making a serious judgement.
    I’m not that impressed by utd yet – I think they overachieved last season, in the sense that they got far more points than their performances deserved from what I saw. I do think they’ve improved in goal, but really I think their hopes rest a lot more on a young cf than they probably realise. I could very easily be wrong, but I’m not expecting them to be close to winning the title.
    City do look weaker on paper, but they have plenty of players who’ve proven they can step it up when it really matters – players like stones and Grealish were great at times last season, and they could actually be even better this year, and that’s on top of de bruyne and haaland.
    I’m more worried about Chelsea, spurs and Newcastle tbh – I think at least one of Chelsea and spurs could really click with their new managers, and Newcastle are quietly building on their already solid base. I don’t expect any of them to win it, but they will probably influence whoever does win and they could all finish high up the table.

  4. I don’t think either of us can overtake City unless they have some kind of calamitous episode. I know pre season is about experimenting but I’ve seen nothing from us or Utd so far that gives me confidence we will do better or equal last season. Not being pessimistic, just realistic. I also expect Newcastle to feature strongly in the race too.

      1. Funny, Manchester united and arsenal have come to stay, I have not seen anything from city in preseason to suggest that they will be dominant if we are judging from preseason, last season city had a below average preseason yet won treble, the fact is once you have a big squad preseason is for giving everyone a chance and trying few things the result means little, next week against Nottingham Forest is when the business starts

  5. When you compared last preason games to the current, you would expect Arsenal not to perform as good as last season. Last year we had 3 players came into the first 11 and they instantly gelled. We won virtually all our preseason matches and took that form into the season and won our first few games convincingly.
    This season, I sense some tactical maturity in the gaffer especially on the aspect of rotation of players. Maybe that will count for us in the coming season remains to be seen.
    The only downside, for me, is that I still believe we should have got better quality players with 200 million than we did.

  6. There is nothing to tell me we are ready to overtake City. We are miles behind them in ability to win trophies. We have shown nothing to say we have the manager or team with the nous to win.

  7. Until we display a champion’s mentality I’m not ready to say they will win the title.

    Even last year I think mentality was the defining issue, not talent or tactics.

    2 years in a row we crumbled and collapsed at the end while only competing in one competition.

    If they find the mentality and will, they will get it done. If not, they will fold like a cheap suit again.

  8. I agree in part. Last season we had a good run, putting in some good performances, showing a bit of steel, and composure when necessary earning second place and a CL Spot. However we did have our calamitous moments with unexpected losses to Palace, Brighton, Everton etc. Other moments where we huffed and puffed and drew games that we might’ve lost in seasons past.

    With all this being done whilst the likes of Liverpool, Chelsea, United and Spurs were all having their own bad spells.

    Yes we did well last season but it has to be put into context. Yes we upped the ante in the way we went about our on field affairs but we did it with the comfort that it was just us and City that were enjoying a purple patch.

    City’s was their usual confident and fluent style, earned through the assembly of a great team, excellent football and a brilliant coach behind them(okay, not forgetting that they’ve had a few bob to spend over the last few years to put in place a firm foundation of buying some of the best talent). Ours was an uncharacteristic improvement on the things we normally do and a determination to battle to the end.

    However, what worries me is yes, we put in a good showing last season, got ourselves a second place and CL Spot, couldn’t quite pip City in a two horse race (to which we were still the architects of our own failure along the way) and have to do it all again with just a few additions Rice, Havertz and Timber with Timber looking like the one that’ll offer the most improvement to the team.

    Again, we done all right last season. Not league winning material, no other silverware, and all when the regular top five were asleep. Now they’re back and we’ve also got Newcastle and Brighton constantly improving and breathing down our necks. You’ve got Shaun Dyche who seems to know how to sus us out! In short, we’ve got a lot to do!

    I don’t think we are in a position to overtake City and the focal point shouldn’t be just City. Whilst we’re concentrating on being the club that competes with City, trying to take their crown and glory. We have to keep our eyes on those around us that will let us have that mantle as dragon slayers whilst quietly sharpening their knives.

    Plus, we got through last season playing some good football but it was still pretty predictable at times. Teams know that our main offensive is on the wings. They know that both Saka and Martinelli will attack in their usual style and be more resolute against them.

    I think before we can think about superseding the likes of City we have to make sure we’ve got the means to hold our own. We have to develop the team with players, tactics and ability to do even better than last season as we won’t get away with an easy run now the big boys are back for this new term.

    We’ve got to be miles better than last season. Technically adept, physically awesome, single minded, greedy. If we can play some good looking football as well, then that’s a bonus. But if we win and do it ugly then that’s what has to be done.

    Every team in this division Inc new boys Burnley and Luton will be looking to make their mark at our expense. Naturally all the naysaying pundits and footballs media inc Neville, Keane, Ferdinand, Owen etc will be looking to prove the points they spouted last season that our moderate success was nothing more than a fluke! As a result, we need to be considerably better to prove otherwise, that we are a team that are improving and on the up !

    Let’s not worry about usurping Man City for now. Let’s just concentrate on slowly building our own success for the near and distant future!

  9. Unfortunately Neville is likely to be proved right. Not because utd are a good team, but because on the one hand ten hag is being spun as a cross between sun tzu and buddha (a tactical genius of immense wisdom) while on the other, and far more important, teams are historically beaten before a ball is kicked by the NW reds finely honed reputation. Teams are rightly scared of playing City, but once their star fades, as with Chelsea in poor form, teams have no fear. Nor do they fear Arsenal. Indeed they’ve been instilled with the belief that they should ‘have a go’ at us. As such, Utd will ‘at least’ finish top three, Liverpool will likely overcome their dip in form, Chelsea have poch and have cleared a lot of dead wood meaning they’ll be back up there, and City will still be hot favourites. Arsenal? I fear top six is our best bet. A hangover from last years collapse, new players with silly price tags hanging over them to bed in, and the ever more bloated and dull CL to contend with mean it’s going to be lot tougher this season. Elsewhere, Newcastle ‘may’ kick on, but this is Newcastle we are talking about and I doubt one single fan will be getting carried away. Maybe Villa as an outsider? Spurs? As with utd, Posteglou has been built up to messianic proportions so a good start is likely – but then the usual spurs reassert themselves.

  10. Top six our best bet?? Wow funny how we fans tend to dismiss our chances of anything top most especially now we are on the up(to me only perhaps).

    1. “One swallow doth not make a spring” comes to mind. Arsenal shocked a lot of people, including themselves going on the run in, last season. They were though fortunate in having a City side that took a while to adjust to Haaland, a mediocre over hyped Utd, liverpool off form, a dire Chelsea, Spurs up to their old tricks and a stolid but not yet ready to seriously challenge Newcastle as top four contenders. The EPL also had one of its poorest quality lineup in its overtly average history. Hence Arsenal, because of the issues I mentioned above, ‘may’ as nothing is written in stone until spring 2024, not do as well as last season.

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